Episodes

Tuesday Nov 21, 2023
510: Head in the Cloud, Toes at the Edge
Tuesday Nov 21, 2023
Tuesday Nov 21, 2023
Today we welcome Nokia's Paul Unbehagen to the pod.
Paul has a deep history in the networking world, so he approaches his role at Nokia—NE Americas CTO—from the perspective of a network engineer.
Although our main topics this week are enterprise cloud and right-sizing cloud utilization, we use those as a springboard into many topics circling the state of the network in 2023.
We touch on the history of the enterprise’s move into the cloud and why some companies have reevaluated their cloud strategy in recent years.
As it so often does, the geography of the cloud comes up, along with Paul’s take on location and design in the cloud. This brings us to the edge—not only what it means and where it is, but some of the new and exciting use cases of what edge computing facilitates.
Embedded in that conversation is also 5G and how mobile can push the network into being a central part of the business. And we can’t resist bringing up AI/ML.
- Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast
- TeleGeography Blog: https://blog.telegeography.com/
- Our Research: https://www2.telegeography.com/en/our-research

Tuesday Nov 07, 2023
509: Why 4G Is Still Relevant for Enterprise Connectivity
Tuesday Nov 07, 2023
Tuesday Nov 07, 2023
We welcome SmartCIC CEO Toby Forman to the show. Toby has a global perspective on the development of fixed wireless access (FWA) and its potential as a disruptive technology in the enterprise connectivity space.
After nailing down a solid definition of FWA in the market today, we run through the factors to consider when deploying FWA. Toby explains what Cellsmart—a division of SmartCIC focused on FWA—does for service providers and enterprises interested in going through this process.
Next, Toby offers some real-world use cases and shares how he sees the fixed wireless and wireless markets developing over the next few years, briefly delving into the broader implications of broadband access for economic development worldwide.
This episode should leave you with a deeper understanding of the development of FWA and the ability to evaluate and plan for what's next.
Cellsmart Mapping Project:
Heatmap of Tests https://survey.smartcic.com/map
Tests By Date https://survey.smartcic.com/historical
Last 24 Hours Drive Testing https://survey.smartcic.com/testdrive
- Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast
- TeleGeography Blog: https://blog.telegeography.com/
- Our Research: https://www2.telegeography.com/en/our-research

Tuesday Oct 31, 2023
508: How Geography Influences Network Security
Tuesday Oct 31, 2023
Tuesday Oct 31, 2023
Today’s guest comes to the security world with a deep background in cloud and networks. Joe DePalo is Chief Platform Officer at Netskope, and the ideal person to help us understand how and why location matters in network security.
We first identify how the network has changed over the past few years, gauging its impact on the threat landscape and how networks perform generally. Also on the agenda: why middle-mile performance and security should be part of the equation, and how lessons learned from the challenges of creating CDNs are instructive about modern issues in network security.
Finally, Joe offers an interesting take on a question that comes up often on the podcast—what does it mean to have a WAN in this environment?
- Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast
- TeleGeography Blog: https://blog.telegeography.com/
- Our Research: https://www2.telegeography.com/en/our-research

Tuesday Oct 17, 2023
507: How Do Targeted Ads Work? Is My Phone Listening In?
Tuesday Oct 17, 2023
Tuesday Oct 17, 2023
We're asking the big questions about mobile advertising. Luckily, Ross Flynn of the Mobile Ecosystem Forum is with us to explain. Ross has a background in digital advertising, making him the ideal person to walk us through advertising formulas that pair ads with IPs.
He talks to Greg about programmatic advertising—not just what it is, but how the practice impacts the mobile market. And then we get to the fun stuff: How do these advertising practices actually impact the mobile market? Is mobile advertising evolving? Does it present unique opportunities?
- Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast
- TeleGeography Blog: https://blog.telegeography.com/
- Our Research: https://www2.telegeography.com/en/our-research

Tuesday Oct 10, 2023
506: Born in the (US)NUA: LIVE from Ohio!
Tuesday Oct 10, 2023
Tuesday Oct 10, 2023
In August, we joined a meeting of the OH Network User Group at the BrewDog hotel and brewery in Columbus, Ohio. (If you're unfamiliar with the Network User Association, they're worth checking out.)
The Ohio chapter kindly agreed to let host Greg give a live talk on how enterprise WANs are changing and the implications of those changes for network costs. We brought lots of WAN data, fielded tons of questions, and very much enjoyed the networking vibes in Ohio.
Full disclosure, we're definitely not in the sound booth for this episode. We taped it live and you'll get some extra audience noise in your headphones, but I like to think that just makes you feel like you were there.
- Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast
- TeleGeography Blog: https://blog.telegeography.com/
- Our Research: https://www2.telegeography.com/en/our-research

Tuesday Oct 03, 2023
505: It’s a Bird, It’s a Plane, It’s Super Cloud
Tuesday Oct 03, 2023
Tuesday Oct 03, 2023
We're thrilled to welcome William Collins, Principal Cloud Architect at Alkira, to the pod.
We asked William to discuss the history of enterprise cloud and highlight a few of the bigger issues in enterprise cloud networking today. His answers might surprise you. We even discuss supercloud—what it is and what its implications are. Grab your super suit and punch the play to hear the full discussion.
- Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast
- TeleGeography Blog: https://blog.telegeography.com/
- Our Research: https://www2.telegeography.com/en/our-research

Tuesday Sep 26, 2023
504: How NaaS Relates to SDN and Automation
Tuesday Sep 26, 2023
Tuesday Sep 26, 2023
Telecom industry veteran Mark Daley, Epsilon Telecommunications Director of Digital Strategy and Business Development, joins us on the pod. After spending nearly a decade directly involved with SDN and NaaS at Epsilon, Mark is the perfect guest to discuss how NaaS is unfolding in the market.
We start with Mark’s definition of NaaS and where he sees its availability in the current telecom services landscape. He also shares six important NaaS characteristics: visible, configurable, priceable, orderable, deployable, and manageable.
- Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast
- TeleGeography Blog: https://blog.telegeography.com/
- Our Research: https://www2.telegeography.com/en/our-research

Tuesday Sep 19, 2023
503: The Total Transformation of Latin American Telecom
Tuesday Sep 19, 2023
Tuesday Sep 19, 2023
Luis Fiallo has been in the telecom industry for over 25 years. For the majority of that time, he has been at China Telecom Americas, witnessing firsthand the many changes happening in the Latin American telecom market.
After years of helping to drive CTA's growth in the region, Luis, now Vice President, has many valuable insights to share with TeleGeography Explains the Internet.
Peter Wood, TeleGeography’s Senior Analyst covering Latin America, joins to cover the history of networks in the region, going back to the days when even intra-South American traffic tromboned to Miami and back.
We also discuss directly connecting developing markets worldwide, without passing through the U.S. or Western Europe, and the economic connections between East Asia and Latin America. Finally, we talk about the cloud and dig into the areas of the Latin American telecom market that Luis views as the most important to develop in the coming years.
- Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast
- TeleGeography Blog: https://blog.telegeography.com/
- Our Research: https://www2.telegeography.com/en/our-research

Tuesday Sep 12, 2023
502: Why Telecom Service Providers Need To Automate
Tuesday Sep 12, 2023
Tuesday Sep 12, 2023
We welcome Stan Hubbard, Principal Analyst at MEF, to the show. Stan recently authored a State of the Industry Report for MEF; we wanted to have him on to discuss his findings and see where the telecom industry is at with adopting new technologies.
Stan explains the market drivers and why telecom service providers need to automate to stay relevant and competitive. He then outlines the path carriers can take to achieve this. Next, we discuss his report and get details on the state of automation adoption in the telecom industry, why customized or proprietary APIs are inefficient, the benefits of standardization, how enterprise drives automation, and even how blockchain will be involved in network contracts.
Download the MEF State of the Industry Report https://www.mef.net/mef-state-of-the-industry-report/
- Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast
- TeleGeography Blog: https://blog.telegeography.com/
- Our Research: https://www2.telegeography.com/en/our-research

Tuesday Sep 05, 2023
501: Are These WAN Sourcing Trends Real or Just Hype?
Tuesday Sep 05, 2023
Tuesday Sep 05, 2023
Dennis Thankachan, Co-Founder and CEO at Lightyear, joins us on the pod. Dennis is uniquely positioned to see how enterprises are sourcing networks. This episode covers the shift to off-premises data centers, hybrid and remote work, the drive to cut network costs through changing technologies, right-sizing networks, and more.
We also touch on Dennis’ skepticism about frequently mentioned WAN trends and technologies.
- Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast
- TeleGeography Blog: https://blog.telegeography.com/
- Our Research: https://www2.telegeography.com/en/our-research